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"WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama has granted the first pardons of his presidency, to nine people convicted of crimes including possessing drugs, counterfeiting and even mutilating coins.
No one well-known was on the list, and some of the crimes dated back decades or had drawn little more than a slap on the wrist in the first place — such as the Pennsylvania man sentenced in 1963 to probation and a $20 fine for mutilating coins. The White House didn't explain the charge, but tampering with federal currency is a crime."
Wow, who knew that all of the elongated cents were a crime.
No one well-known was on the list, and some of the crimes dated back decades or had drawn little more than a slap on the wrist in the first place — such as the Pennsylvania man sentenced in 1963 to probation and a $20 fine for mutilating coins. The White House didn't explain the charge, but tampering with federal currency is a crime."
Wow, who knew that all of the elongated cents were a crime.
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Good grief.
<< <i>Glad to see he's taking the time to tackle the big issues facing the nation right now.
Good grief. >>
He has caused most of them. I would prefer he spends his time looking for petty cases to pardon.
mutilating coins in 1963?
what makes you think this thread will go astray?
Just saying, I'm grasping at straws here trying not to say smoething politically negative.
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I wonder if he is the first person to produce the infamous "Lincoln looks at Kennedy" pennies?
There was a guy back in the 1960's who used a machine to shave pennies to the size of dimes
and passed them in vending machines.
Ronald Lee Foster is about to get his fifteen minutes of fame.
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<< <i>Is this a copy/paste from The Onion?
Russ, NCNE >>
Nope, Drudge.
The pardons are being reported on CNN News and other major news sites.
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<< <i>Is this a copy/paste from The Onion?
Russ, NCNE >>
"Coin mutilator!"
<< <i>It is not a joke.
The pardons are being reported on CNN News and other major news sites.
I can't wait for the pardons to come through for the people who tore the "Do Not Remove This Tag" tags off of sofas and chairs!
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<< <i>Ronald Lee Foster,
You have calls from Oprah Winfrey, Diane Sawyer, Katie Couric
You LEFT out Matt Lauer!!!
The name is LEE!
<< <i>You wanna provide a link there buddy? >>
Right Cheer, Buddy!!!!
By Jared A. Favole and Jamila Trindle
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--President Barack Obama chose to bless people convicted of mutilating coins, using cocaine and writing bad checks with his first presidential pardons.
In all, Obama pardoned nine people Friday for crimes dating as far back as the 1960s. Those pardoned had been sentenced to as little as one year of probation to up two years in confinement. Fines and damages for the offenders ranged from as little as $20 to $71,000.
When asked why Obama chose the group for his first pardons, Reid Cherlin, a spokesman for the White House, said, "The president was moved by the strength of the applicants' post-conviction efforts at atonement, as well as their superior citizenship and individual achievements in the years since their convictions."
Ronald Lee Foster of Beaver Falls, Pa., was among those pardoned. He was sentenced in North Carolina in 1963 to one year of probation and a $20 fine for "Mutilation of coins." The statute he was charged under says it's unlawful to, among other things, alter, deface, mutilate, impair, diminish, falsify, scale or lighten any U.S. coins.
Edgar Leopold Kranz Jr. of Minot, N.D. in 1994 was suspended, had his pay decreased and received two years of confinement for "wrongful use of cocaine, adultery and writing three insufficient fund checks," according to a White House press release. Kranz was charged under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which states that military personnel can be prosecuted for conduct that brings discredit upon the armed forces.
Obama also pardoned one Laurens Dorsey of Syracuse, N.Y. Dorsey was known as an ambassador for the state's apples because he introduced the King and Queen of Sweden to New York's empire apples during a 1988 visit, according to Syracuse Newspapers.
Dorsey was pardoned for conspiracy to defraud the United States by making false statements to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. The sentence for his offense: five years of probation and $71,000 restitution in 1998 in New Jersey. Dorsey pleaded guilty to allowing his import-export company, Syrex, to be used in a cargo diversion scheme to divert exported goods back to the U.S. for sale, according to Business News New Jersey at the time.
Pardoning nine people may help dispel criticism that Obama is too stingy toward homo sapiens with his pardoning powers. Obama has pardoned several turkeys as part of a White House Thanksgiving tradition.
Pardons can land presidents in hot water. In his last day in office, former President Bill Clinton set off a firestorm when he pardoned fugitive financier Marc Rich, whose ex-wife had donated to the Clinton Presidential Library. Congress launched investigations into the pardon. Perhaps most notorious of all, President Gerald Ford pardoned his predecessor, Richard Nixon, who had resigned about a month earlier amid the Watergate scandal in 1974. The political fallout from the pardon dogged Ford for the remainder of his term in office.
A pardon is an exemption from punishment and can't be reversed. People have to apply to be pardoned. Obama has received 551 pardon requests since he took office, according Department of Justice statistics. He has, so far, denied 131.
Former President George W. Bush, during his eight years in office, received 2,489 pardon requests. He granted 189.
Franklin D. Roosevelt granted the most pardons. From 1933 to 1945, he pardoned 2,819 people, according to Department of Justice statistics.
-By Jared A. Favole, Dow Jones Newswires; 202-862-9256; jared.favole@dowjones.com
<< <i>You wanna provide a link there buddy? >>
pardoned by name
A counterfeiter too
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It's not the US Mint , how does a candidate get permission for this or is it just a company cashing in ? Either way , it's not US mint so ....
For 42 years, Ronald Foster didn't know he had a felony conviction for
cutting up pennies.
In 1963, he was earning $82 a month as a Marine at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina,
when he says he and 16 others hatched a scheme to cut pennies into dimes so they
could use them in vending machines.
But the Secret Service caught them. They were marched into a courtroom on base,
where his commanding officer entered a plea on their behalf to mutilation of
coins, he says.
Then, in 2005, he applied for a gun permit and found out for the first time he
had a felony conviction. He applied for a presidential pardon, which was
officially granted Friday, in the first round of pardons during Obama's
administration.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/03/obama.pardons/index.html?hpt=T2
Hey, I'm psychic.
The CNN article first only gave the man's name and his crime as "mutilation of coins",
but no details. I guessed earlier that it had to do with altering pennies to pass as dimes,
because of a case I read about as a kid (not this one).
The CNN article was later revised with details of the "crime".
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The crime wasn't "mutilating pennies", it was fraudulently passing them as dimes.
<< <i>So basically, he stole from vending machine owners.
The crime wasn't "mutiliating pennies", it was fraudulently passing them as dimes. >>
Exactly, there is no crime against defacing U.S. coinage. I believe the crime is when you deface coins to committ fraud. Such as gold plating an 1883 Nickel to pass it as $5 gold piece.
mutilation or beautification
anything happen to those silver surf quarter movie people?
<< <i>Glad to see he's taking the time to tackle the big issues facing the nation right now.
Good grief. >>
lol
<< <i>So basically, he stole from vending machine owners.
The crime wasn't "mutilating pennies", it was fraudulently passing them as dimes. >>
...............without first stamping "COPY" on them.
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He committed a crime, live with it. There was no mistake, he stole.....
<< <i>Wow. Sure sounds like the kind of satire the Onion would do.
Russ, NCNE >>
Ha! You can't make this stuff up
<< <i>This doesn't sound pardonable.......
He committed a crime, live with it. There was no mistake, he stole..... >>
to pardon somene, they first have to be convicted.
Then, in 2005, he applied for a gun permit and found out for the first time he had a felony conviction. He applied for a presidential pardon, which was officially granted Friday, in the first round of pardons during Obama's administration.
Squashing pennies into elongated souvenirs isn't illegal, because the coin is being pulled out of circulation. Cutting a penny so that a vending machine "thinks" it is a dime is, because it's creating a counterfeit dime. Counterfeiting happens to be a Federal crime and a felony, but the scale of this particular incident, and that it was someone who was otherwise serving our country in the armed forces, perhaps made him deserving of a pardon. Even though the time was served and the penalty paid, a felony conviction takes away voting rights as well as other rights, hence the gun permit issue. The pardon gives him back those rights, so he can get summoned for jury duty like the rest of us.
Would rather see some of the AT coin doctors convicted in the first place, instead, LOL.
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<< <i>The Presidential pardons are an annual tradition. Obama isn't doing anything peculiar or new in issuing a round of pardons. This particular story just stood out to the press as something rather quirky and attention-catching.
Squashing pennies into elongated souvenirs isn't illegal, because the coin is being pulled out of circulation. Cutting a penny so that a vending machine "thinks" it is a dime is, because it's creating a counterfeit dime. Counterfeiting happens to be a Federal crime and a felony, but the scale of this particular incident, and that it was someone who was otherwise serving our country in the armed forces, perhaps made him deserving of a pardon. Even though the time was served and the penalty paid, a felony conviction takes away voting rights as well as other rights, hence the gun permit issue. The pardon gives him back those rights, so he can get summoned for jury duty like the rest of us. >>
Just an FYI... voting rights for felons vary by state. Some states even allow a felon to vote while in prison. Just because you are a felon does not necessarily mean you can't vote.
<< <i>I need to stop this.
You just cut a coin with a DDR!
By the way, who can name the famous person from Beaver Falls that the home town folks are actually proud of?