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Thread Title: Sold my 1817/3 Capped Bust Half PCGS AU53 for this.............How did I do? (GRADE REVEALED IN FIRST POST)
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drddm
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Thursday July 29, 2010 7:21 AM

My latest addition to my CBH set..........I of course had to add a few more bucks to what I sold my 1817/3 for in order pay for it, but what do you all think?

Comments are welcome and guesses as to grade and variety as well.

Just keep in mind one thing, these pics DO NOT WHATSOEVER show the luster on this CBH, as it IS THERE, believe me!!!

Thanks

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Edited: Thursday July 29, 2010 at 7:22 PM by drddm

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coin22lover
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Thursday July 29, 2010 7:27 AM

I think it looks nice... is it the O-114?

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123cents
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Thursday July 29, 2010 7:47 AM

Looks like a nice 1807 Large Stars.

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nankraut
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Thursday July 29, 2010 7:48 AM

<< I think it looks nice... is it the O-114? >>

I don't think it's nice at all....I think it's mouth-watering beautiful!

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Thursday July 29, 2010 7:51 AM

From what I can decipher, tis a strange photo, and using my imagination and knowing you phenom taste level I am sure you are right. The details of the coin such as the strike and the fact that it seems to have original surfaces and toning of some sort are apparent but i just can't get a handle on what the coin really looks like ie I know it can't look like that in hand. Just one question, why such an oddly taken photo, are you trying to bring something out etc?

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Thursday July 29, 2010 7:54 AM

Thanks, yes it happens to be the 1807 O-114 Large Stars variety.....been looking for one of these for awhile.

There happens to be a O-114 PCGS AU55 coming up for sale at the ANA next month......Linky

Will be interesting to see what it sells for........as it's not very often to see a choice AU 1807 Large Stars up for auction.

Personally, I think the AU55 above is not AT ALL attractive and lacks a lot as far as looks go, JMHO.

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Thursday July 29, 2010 7:55 AM

I'm guessing that the rub is being accentuated by the images and that the coin grades AU55. Otherwise, my guess is AU53.

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Thursday July 29, 2010 7:55 AM

very high grade,

at least au58, most likely higher.

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Thursday July 29, 2010 8:01 AM

<< From what I can decipher, tis a strange photo, and using my imagination and knowing you phenom taste level I am sure you are right. The details of the coin such as the strike and the fact that it seems to have original surfaces and toning of some sort are apparent but i just can't get a handle on what the coin really looks like ie I know it can't look like that in hand. Just one question, why such an oddly taken photo, are you trying to bring something out etc? >>

Not trying to bring out anything special at all with these pics, just trying to show off the strike and surface quality, but just for the record, these are the seller's pics.

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Thursday July 29, 2010 8:12 AM

Extremely nice O.114. Aspects of it look to be MS61 or so, to be honest, but it just hard to tell from this particular photo. It's a lovely coin. Congrats!
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Thursday July 29, 2010 8:21 AM

As a comparison, there happens to be a O-114 PCGS AU50+ on Harry Laibstain's website......Linky

If I'm not mistaken, this particular AU50+ was first on Harry's site and priced a little higher then it is now, then it was on CRO's site for a little while at a slightly lower price, and now somehow it's back on Harry's site. Either way, I think it may be sitting there for awhile as the asking price of $7950 is a little unrealistic, again JMHO.

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Edited: Thursday July 29, 2010 at 8:21 AM by drddm

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crazyhounddog
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Thursday July 29, 2010 8:34 AM

Just beautiful

Congrats on a super nice piece...

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mdwoods
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Thursday July 29, 2010 8:37 AM

Ah, that's a very nice coin. What's going on with the 7 in the date? Is that a die crack?

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Thursday July 29, 2010 8:43 AM

There are die lumps below the 7, one of the diagnostics for the O-114 variety.

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Realone
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Thursday July 29, 2010 8:47 AM

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<< From what I can decipher, tis a strange photo, and using my imagination and knowing you phenom taste level I am sure you are right. The details of the coin such as the strike and the fact that it seems to have original surfaces and toning of some sort are apparent but i just can't get a handle on what the coin really looks like ie I know it can't look like that in hand. Just one question, why such an oddly taken photo, are you trying to bring something out etc? >>

Not trying to bring out anything special at all with these pics, just trying to show off the strike and surface quality, but just for the record, these are the seller's pics. >>

Wow, what is the seller thinking, when I look at these pics and put them next to your magnificent Trueviews, no comparison. Sure I know your newp has to be a match with all your others but i still scratch my head and say, what an awful representation of a real nice bustie?

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TahoeDale
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Thursday July 29, 2010 8:53 AM

You did well. This date/variety is 3 to 4 times as scarce as the 1817/3 in similar grades.

And I'm pretty sure you didn't pay 3 times the value of your 1817/3.

The O.114 has also risen in value much more than the coin it replaced. In 2003 I paid less than 8K for a PC 62.

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Thursday July 29, 2010 8:58 AM

Thanks Dale. I certainly didn't pay 3 times the value of my 17/3 in 53.

It seems that the O-114 is a little tougher than the 0-113 Small Stars, is that true in your opinion Dale?

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johnny9434
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Thursday July 29, 2010 10:53 AM

looks good to me. ya did good

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fishteeth
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Thursday July 29, 2010 11:39 AM

That is one I would like to see in hand. Congrats on the new addition

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Thursday July 29, 2010 12:25 PM

Thanks everyone for the kind words. I'm pretty happy with it.

I'll reveal the grade later tonight.....just want to get a few more comments/guesses as to grade.

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