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SLQ 1918D and 1919 - GRADE OPINION please + Added an 1949 S Franklin

Hi there!

Got this two quarters from a local dealer for 20$ and would really appreciate your opinion on grade. Can 1919 be a VF-20? I'll leave it to you.

THANK YOU.
Rok

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    TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say the 19 is XF and the 18 is VF.Seems like a pretty good deal for $20
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    rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
    The 1919 is not even close to a VF20, that's more like an XF45.

    The 1918-D is an XF40.. net graded a bit due to some hits.
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    very nice for $20
    "If you hit a midget on the head with a stick, he turns into 40 gold coins." - Patty Oswalt
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    WOW thank you guys - an XF for 19 and maybe even for 18. Thats even better than I hoped - so this buy was a little steal after all. image

    Thanks again!

    Rok
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    MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭✭
    You did well here. Yhe 1919 is a strong EF and the 1918-D is an EF40 with some scratches. image A bit OT here but I see we have a Kings fan, Me too! Lets hope we kick the you know what out of the Red Wings in a few hoursimage
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    MisterBungleMisterBungle Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭

    I'm not going to attempt a grade for either, but
    I think they're both nice looking circulated SLQ's.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 19P alone bids $65 in XF....if he has any more coins for sale, RUN, don't walk back down to the store!
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The 19P alone bids $65 in XF....if he has any more coins for sale, RUN, don't walk back down to the store! >>




    I heard the store is just outside of Melbourne, Florida.






























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    FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭
    Both look technical XF but I don't see any luster and the slight sheen makes me think both were rather heavily cleaned (more than just dipped) but they have retoned. I don't know if you meant $20 for the pair or $20 each, but either way is still a very good deal.
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    veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Both look technical XF but I don't see any luster and the slight sheen makes me think both were rather heavily cleaned (more than just dipped) but they have retoned. I don't know if you meant $20 for the pair or $20 each, but either way is still a very good deal. >>


    Good observation Frank. There is a strong possibility that the coins were cleaned, but still, for those prices, you can't go wrong.
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    Thank you all for the kind words.

    << The 19P alone bids $65 in XF....if he has any more coins for sale, RUN, don't walk back down to the store! >>
    I picked one 1949 S Franklin and a nice 1863 8 Mexican Reales - and yes he did have some more US coins (some Morgans and other silver coins) - so I will have to go back to examine those to.

    << Both look technical XF but I don't see any luster and the slight sheen makes me think both were rather heavily cleaned (more than just dipped) but they have retoned. I don't know if you meant $20 for the pair or $20 each, but either way is still a very good deal. >>

    I mean 7 euros per coin - t. i. approx. 10 dollars per coin. They could been cleaned but not by the guy. This shop is actually an Antique shop in a place where I have my Doctor. So I steped in and ask if he maybe have some coins (actually I was looking for some older Yugoslavian coins) - and he showed me an old fall-apart Album full of world (silver only) coins, that he bought from an old collector - by silver weight. If they were cleaned - that must happened earlier. He really dont have much knowledge in coins, so my first feeling was he was selling those coins to my be size imageimage Larger were simply more expensive (I payed 10 Euros (t. i. 14 Dollars) for 1949 S Franklin - and this one I probably overpaid.
    Well cant wait to go back there.



    << <i> A bit OT here but I see we have a Kings fan, Me too! Lets hope we kick the you know what out of the Red Wings in a few hoursimage >>


    Moldnut - King fan I am??? image 100% - Anze is from Slovenia and I dont miss a game. 9 in a row is a goal image

    Bye, Rok
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The 1919 is not even close to a VF20, that's more like an XF45.

    The 1918-D is an XF40.. net graded a bit due to some hits. >>

    I agree. Here's a slabbed XF40 for comparison.
    Lance.

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    rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The 1919 is not even close to a VF20, that's more like an XF45.

    The 1918-D is an XF40.. net graded a bit due to some hits. >>

    I agree. Here's a slabbed XF40 for comparison.
    Lance.

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    Lance,

    Yeah but be careful using a 27-S as an example.. those suckers were stuck using like 50 lbs of pressure I think. 19-Ps come really well struck.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would grade the 1919 as an EF-40 with a possible reservation of cleaning. I'm not sure about the possible cleaning problem from the photo.

    I would give the 1918-D a sharpness grade of VF-30 LESS 10 points for the roughness in the right obverse field and the scratches on the eagle on the reverse. Net grade VF-20. I think that one could end up in a "genuine" holder.
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    << <i>I would grade the 1919 as an EF-40 with a possible reservation of cleaning. I'm not sure about the possible cleaning problem from the photo.

    I would give the 1918-D a sharpness grade of VF-30 LESS 10 points for the roughness in the right obverse field and the scratches on the eagle on the reverse. Net grade VF-20. I think that one could end up in a "genuine" holder. >>



    I agree - I would like to be more conservative on those coins too.

    But since you all have been so generous with me - can I ask for your opinion on this 1949 S Franklin also? Would really appreciate it. Thanks again
    (Could there be something more than EF 40 or not even so much??)

    Rok

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would give the 1949-S Franklin an AU-55 sharpness grade, but it has some "carbon" spots that would knock it down to an AU-50. Those spots might make it hard to get AU money for the coin. They might come up with some dip applied to them, but I've seen operations like that work better on Mint State coins with uniformly bright surfaces than on ciruclated coins that have dulled surfaces.
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    Thanx BillJones!
    Rok
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    joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    I agree with Bill Jones
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    PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    XF 45 on the Franklin
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    I think that long scratch on the 1918d that runs from Liberty's hip to the 1 in the date will put that coin in a genuine holder.
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    BearBear Posts: 18,954 ✭✭
    I have to agree with frank, The surface of both coins shows more then just dipping.

    However, since the price seems very good, you did OK overall.image
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    canadanzcanadanz Posts: 618 ✭✭


    << <i>I have to agree with frank, The surface of both coins shows more then just dipping.

    However, since the price seems very good, you did OK overall.image >>



    What a weird bump... 17 months later ??

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