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Thread Title: ****** WARNING! DO NOT BUY THESE COINS! (The Unofficial Counterfeit Slab Education/Awareness Thread) ******
Created On Tuesday June 30, 2009 9:20 AM
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RBinTex
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*** Heritage Pics Below ***









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What's the problem? Are these counterfeit? They look pretty sweet to me at first glance.

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Wow, the 1794 and 95-O look pretty obviously fake to me, but the 89-CC is scary.

This is a very disturbing trend.



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are these fake slabs?

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Who's selling them???

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This thread is worthless without an explanation.

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Quid pro quo. Yes or no?

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.........WHY? aren't you going to 'splain WHY WE SHOULDN'T BUY THEM?

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<< This thread is worthless without an explanation. >>




but expected

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times calling us to draw lessons from Mr. Churchill and the words he spoke in
1942: 'Never give in, never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the
enemy'.

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"Wow, the 1794 and 95-O look pretty obviously fake to me, but the 89-CC is scary.

This is a very disturbing trend."



What's even scarier is the following unknown (OR AT LEAST UNKNOWN TO ME):

What EXACTLY is PCGS' procedure regarding simple reholders?

Is there ANY verification of the slab OR the coin for this service? I would have to assume given what's out there there MUST be (I hope!!!).

If not - AND THIS IS CERTAINLY A BIG IF - it would seem a fairly simple back door way to get a fake coin out of a fake slab & into a real slab.

I would love to hear PCGS's comment on this.

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Edited: Tuesday June 30, 2009 at 10:24 AM by RBinTex

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Where did you get the Big pictures from????

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<< What's the problem? Are these counterfeit? They look pretty sweet to me at first glance. >>



All of those coins are obviously counterfeit......



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I see the slab counterfeiters are still using/stealing serial numbers from Heritage auctions. The quality of the slabs & labels continue to improve. They really made a mess of the one hologram, though.

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These people are killing the hobby.

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Chinese orgins?

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ok, I see! Old Slabs vs. New Slabs. I didn't see the "*** Heritage Pics Below ***" thing inbetween the Pictures!

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Edited: Tuesday June 30, 2009 at 11:27 AM by COINB0Y

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<< This is cryptic 'inside baseball' BS.

This thread should be pulled just on the damage it does to PCGS by IMPLYING they have been re-slabbing fakes.

Have they or have they not? >>

I don't think anyone is implying that PCGS is slabbing fakes. I think what's being said/implied here is that the counterfeiting scum are getting better and better about producing the look of a PCGS slab, including cert lookups that match the PCGS database.

The only thing they really haven't faithfully duplicated is the bar code.


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<< This thread should be pulled just on the damage it does to PCGS by IMPLYING they have been re-slabbing fakes. >>


I must have missed where anyone said that. I think the closest thing the OP asked was what procedure PCGS has for reholdering "their" coins. I'm quite sure PCGS wouldn't reholder such bad fakes that are in their supposed holders.



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<< This is cryptic 'inside baseball' BS.

This thread should be pulled just on the damage it does to PCGS by IMPLYING they have been re-slabbing fakes.

Have they or have they not? >>



And the "Unclear on the Concept" award goes to...

Not PCGS's fault. Fraudsters out of China creating fake PCGS slabs, stealing serial numbers from Heritage's online archives, and voila!

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That 89-cc is scary.

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<< What's the problem? Are these counterfeit? They look pretty sweet to me at first glance. >>



All of those coins are obviously counterfeit...... >>



I don't know about that, those last two Morgans were scary!

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