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Rare Ballistic Rolls of Presidential Dollars - get 'em now!

roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
Anyone else see these absurd offers from World Reserve Monetary exchange (WRME)? They are selling a roll of dollars (54 coins) for $88 plus $11 shipping. Their scam is marketing these as "gold" coins in a "mammoth plastic roll" with a "never circulated" sticker.
The roll is placed in a gold box stamped like a bar - 425 grams, US Legal Tender, Ballistic Roll, never circulated. The clear plastic roll allows one to see the impressive edge markings. They are stored in heavy vault "bricks" and transported by dollies with "guards" in official-style uniforms. If you act now during this special early release you get free coin(s). (I gather you get one free Presidential per roll). For a net $99 you get $55 worth of coins that are sitting at your local bank. My wife brought some home last week for $1 each but they were not Ballistic Rolls (TM).

-These are never before seen Ballistic rolls
-The phones are ringing off the hook
-You only have 72 hours to act
-You can't get these Ballistic rolls anywhere else - not the mint, FED,
or any bank. This quote from the national ad:

"We can't stop people from breaking open the sealed tubes and handling the presidential coins individually. But anyone who does would be a FOOL. So, to keep that from happening we are giving away a free Pres. dollar coin with each Ballistic roll. That way everyone can still examine and show off the individual free coin without breaking the seal on the valuable Ballistic Rolls."

"We have to put limits on dealers. But everyone else who calls should be able to get what they need."

Ok so don't all order at once and jam the phones even more.
And please don't say you're a dealer or you're screwed.

Just their latest scam. They've done the same thing with uncut sheets of currency that they get from the BEP and market as something unique. The photo of the roll is blown up by a factor of 2 to make the roll look like a night stick. A guard is using 2 hands to stack the BR's into a pile. At about a pound per roll you would wonder why he is bending at the waist as well. Did anyone make the "public unveiling" in NY City. Odd since they ship these out of Ohio?

Are these rolls ballistic because once you find out you paid double face value for junk you'll literally go BALLISTIC? Or is it because when loaded into small cannons these act as useful projectiles?
Hey, at $99 per shot, these 54 coins can do a heap of damage.

No shipments allowed to MA, CT, MN, TN, VT. I can only think that these guys in Ohio want nothing to do with the active Attorneys General in those other states. I know that the CT AG is a stickler for scams.

roadrunner
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  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    Are these rolls ballistic because once you find out you paid double face value for junk you'll literally go BALLISTIC?

    That gets my vote!


    I saw that ad - I couldn't stop laughing!

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  • Where can I get these glorious, super-secret, no dealers allowed, investment of a lifetime, ballistic rolls?
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is no mailing address - clue to scam?

    But............800-924-7945.

    Feel free to call and jam the lines a tad more. image

    But, I have no idea if that "800" number is a true toll free call or just another $$ portion of the scam. And we may be past the 72hr bonus period, so don't be mad if you miss out on the "free" dollar.

    roadrunner
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  • Did you notice the Ballistic' roll is pictured being held in a child or infants hand to give illusion of a larger roll!!!!!!

    425 stamped in large letters to give subliminal impression there are 425 coins.

    What a terrible scam...............
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Scam yes! But at only 2X face value it might be better than Coin Vault. They will also try to hook you into buying a subscription to the whole set which will run you $900 or so. It might be worth the call to see how far you can go w/o giving a credit card number, or at least a phony one. One scam begats another.

    roadrunner
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  • ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭
    I'm really getting tired of the Presidential Dollars and all of the gimmicks associated with them.
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  • 21Walker21Walker Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭
    Did you notice the Ballistic' roll is pictured being held in a child or infants hand to give illusion of a larger roll!!!!!!

    Grandpa told me a story long time ago...........Son, marry a girl with small hands.........Why grampa?.......Makes your D**K look bigger...........Rick
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Basestealer, that's a funny ebay link. That winning bidder paid more than the World Reserve Monetary Exchange is charging. And this copy cat seller stole all their best lines. They only give 50 coins while the ballistic rolls count 54 from the ad. Only on ebay.

    roadrunner
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  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    I called them image and chatted with the "specialist". They need an authorization code from the magazine, but since I did not have it, the fumbled for 10 minutes to create one. A complete scam as they say they are graded MS-65 from a person at the mint who grades all the coins.
    Tom

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Authorization code:

    SR603.


    I can see why they do this. Rather than specialists who call from word of mouth. They want the real clams who actually read the advertisement. And SR603 is also stamped on the tip of your intercontinental ballistic roll (lol)

    Next thing they'll ask you for are the launch codes.

    roadrunner
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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No shipments allowed to MA, CT, MN, TN, VT. I can only think that these guys in Ohio want nothing to do with the active Attorneys General in those other states. I know that the CT AG is a stickler for scams.

    roadrunner >>



    Yeah, they must know better than to mess with Blumenthal.

    I saw that outrageous ad in the NY Post the other day -- I would think they would avoid NY as well, given they tend to have aggressive AGs, and one of them is now governor.


  • << <i>-You can't get these Ballistic rolls anywhere else - not the mint, FED,
    or any bank. >>


    So where do they come from? "Why we make them up ourselves after we scan all the coins for plain edges, doubled letters, clips, high grade coins, or anything else that might make them worth more than a dollar apiece."
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I saw that ad over a week ago in a New York newspaper and did not order because I thought I passed the 72 hour deadline already. image
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Will 'WMD rolls' be next???? Cheers, RickO
  • My son was interested in getting some collectible form of presidential coins (I steered him away from this scam ad).

    Does anyone know a reputable dealer/website where I can get either collectible roll, sets, or packaging for Presidential dollar coins?
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  • you can get rolls and proof sets from the mint website
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,515 ✭✭✭
    I actually got a call from a gal a couple days ago, (responding to my Craig's List ad), and during the course of the conversation she asked if these were a good deal. I'm happy to say that she will not be buying any.

    Russ, NCNE


  • << <i>you can get rolls and proof sets from the mint website >>



    I doubt that they are 'ballistic", though.

    Do these people even know the meaning of the word? This is hilarious!

    From Merriam-Webster:

    bal·lis·tic

    Function: adjective

    Etymology: Latin ballista

    Date: circa 1775

    1 : of or relating to ballistics or to a body in motion according to the laws of ballistics

    2 : being or characterized by repeated bouncing <ballistic stretching>

    3 : extremely and usually suddenly excited, upset, or angry


    I wonder which one they think applies, maybe #2 as in stretching the truth.

    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • what a rip - should be taken down for false advertising - several people have come to me asking about this ongoing fraud and I tell them just go to your local bank and get them - anyone offering these coins over cost should be shot and hung out to dry!!image
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  • Do you have a link? Is this the government mint website?
  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you have a link? Is this the government mint website? >>



    Here you go...

    http://www.wrme.net/
    Tom

  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    The same company runs ads here also selling $200 stacks of $2 bills for $350!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    The ad has run for months and has me laughing each time, yet I wonder how many thay have actually sold and what age is the child holding the "ballistic" roll that makes them appear to be the size of AGE one ounce?

    There is another simialr ad running about $5 gold, too



  • this ad runs all the time in USA today.
  • Thanks for the link to the site. Looks like that guy is going to get a hernia lifting them "heavy" rolls. If you click through hernia man you'll see that you get the rolls in a protective gold foil box, ahem..I mean "Vault Brick". Why you can even shell out a mere $17.00 extra for that all important "Museum Shield", in case the Vault Brick isn't enough from keep your friends from laughing....ahem I mean gawking at your treasure. image
  • fcfc Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭
    this ripoff is very noticeable. real dealers are much slyer and ussually
    ANA members.

    oh, pcgs recognizes a new variety? rush to get the coins cracked
    out and in the new slab. pop 1 with none higher!! wowzer!!

    this hobby disgusts me most of the time.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭
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    Expires on: 16-MAY-08
    Last Updated on: 18-JAN-07

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    http://www.uni-syn.com/Wrme.htm another site.

    http://coincollector.org/archives/004324.html

    to top if all off, these people also sell drugs online.

    usual scum of the earth.

    http://www.skylan.net/skylan.htm

    this guy appears to own a little turd of an ISP and uses his resources
    with other scammers to make money. i wish i was on efnet still and
    knew a few packet kids. put their botnets to good use for 25 dollars
    paypal'd to brazil ;-)

    he is all over the open source mailing lists. security lists. apache,
    etc...
  • I was in my favorite B&M shop yesterday. After having done my business, I was just jawing with the owner and a couple of the employees as they were temporarily slow.

    In walks a lady, probably 50+ in age, she had her recently deceased Mother's "collection". All of it was from the Washington Mint, Franklin Mint, Coin Vault, etc. You get the picture.

    It was a very sad story as she brought out her treasures. She was fighting back tears after 20 minutes or so. I stayed way across the room and watched for a while. I did overhear her say her Mother had spent over 200K over the last few years, her life savings, thinking she would be able to assure her great-grandchildren tuition for college. I had to leave before she had gotten even halfway through her boxes of stuff.

    It was just heartbreaking to watch. I'd love to get a few of those sellers that ripped her elderly Mother alone in a room for just a few minutes.

    If I could get a jury of my peers(ie; posters from here), it would be justifiable homicide.

    Those telemarketers who prey on the elderly are the absolute worst scum on the planet.
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • Let me pose this question concerning World Reserve Monetary exchange and their claim of selling "Uncirculated" ballistic rolls of US Presidential Dollars. Please anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong as I am not a long term coin collector having only begun collecting recently.

    If the World Reserve Monetary Exchange by their own admission is NOT affiliated with the US Mint or Federal Reserve where did the buy their Presidential dollars from? What I am saying is essentially since they are not affiliated with any government agency that legally has the authority to sell uncirculated coins, effectively once they bought their coins from whereever and used workers to stuff these coins into their infamous ballistic cylinders weren't these coins touched by hands outside of the US Mint and at that point considered "in circulation"? I would think that unless they were sealed in tubes or plastic by the US Mint anything that left the US Mint and was "tubed" elsewhere by an unaffiliated agency would be considered "in circulation" correct?

    I truly love that photo showing "the coins" being transported by dollies with "guards" in official-style uniforms into what looks like one of the entrances of Grand Central Station or the Met Life Building in Manhattan. I live in NYC and read nowhere about this "unveiling" until long after it was over and the coins were put up for sale via their newspaper ads. I wonder if any photos exist showing the 5 unarmed "guards" (every armored car delivery I have ever seen in NYC was with armed guards) making the delivery of these coins to their Ohio distribution center since they ship out of the Buckeye State?

    There is another earlier ad by this company showing three men dressed in very nice suits standing at what looks like a ceremony. One guy has an award ribbon and medal around his neck (I can't imagine what the medal is for) and one of the men is "presenting" the other man with the ribbon and medal with a coin display (much like the map for the 50 state quarter program) with 44 of what is supposed to be the Presidential Dollar coins (close-up photo showing the actual coins was not provided). I counted the coins on the display in the ad and there are 44 of them. When you consider this it is a truly amazing feat by the folks at the World Reserve Monetary exchange as these coins (after Martin Van Buren) have not even been designed yet. WOW! Color me impressed. How did they get all 44 (two for Grover Cleveland) Presidential Dollar coins when the US Mint has not created these coins to date? Any company that can pull off a feat that spectacular has my vote. image


  • << <i>I would think that unless they were sealed in tubes or plastic by the US Mint anything that left the US Mint and was "tubed" elsewhere by an unaffiliated agency would be considered "in circulation" correct? >>

    If that were the that case, there wouldn't be any uncirculated coins, except the ones sold by the mint. In more practical terms, "uncirculated" relates to the amount (or, more accurately, the lack) of wear a coin has been subjected to. As long as the coin shows no evidence of wear, it really doesn't matter where it's been. I mean... if you can't tell one coin (which was just now struck at the mint) from another (which was shipped by the mint somewhere, and packaged by *whoever*), is there really any difference between them?
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,470 ✭✭✭✭
    In simpler terms:

    Uncirculated is a coin's condition and not whether or not it has been "untouched" by human hands outside of the US Mint.
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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,957 ✭✭✭
    Is the deal any worse than what people might find on TV coin shows?

    Just catered to a different market of people who are not willing to research what they buy first. Not sure who to blame there.
  • How can this part of my posting be explained?

    There is another earlier ad by this company showing three men dressed in very nice suits standing at what looks like a ceremony. One guy has an award ribbon and medal around his neck (I can't imagine what the medal is for) and one of the men is "presenting" the other man with the ribbon and medal with a coin display (much like the map for the 50 state quarter program) with 44 of what is supposed to be the Presidential Dollar coins (close-up photo showing the actual coins was not provided). I counted the coins on the display in the ad and there are 44 of them. When you consider this it is a truly amazing feat by the folks at the World Reserve Monetary exchange as these coins (after Martin Van Buren) have not even been designed yet.
  • This company has a website and was mentioned in a earlier thread that had to do with "Silver Nickel Mini Rolls'
  • ca0100000ca0100000 Posts: 362 ✭✭
    Money must be good. In Parade magazine they charge 124 plus shipping.
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  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    I have also seen westward buff rolls offered by them.

    made me wonder if they search rolls for high ends then assemble this crap afterwards
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  • SilverstateSilverstate Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭
    PURE GARBAGE...................Waste of money.

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