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Lets just say this coin is off the market once and for all. No one made big bucks. Ebay bidder will not receive this coin.
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I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Its gonna need more than a light wizz to fix it. Thats too bad.
<< <i>Was it MoC toned? WTF happened to the cheek? If you wanted to correct the problem wouldn't dip be a better solution than defacing a coin? >>
I agree. It is unfortuante that the coin was tampered with, but I think it is worse somehow that in addition it has now been defaced.
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<< <i>I think it is worse somehow that in addition it has now been defaced.
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<< <i>Was it MoC toned? WTF happened to the cheek? If you wanted to correct the problem wouldn't dip be a better solution than defacing a coin? >>
Agreed. I'm glad no one is going to burned for big bucks by the AT coin in the PCGS holder, but I didn't think it needed to be mangled -- just cracked out and dipped would suffice...
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Russ, NCNE
Dang!! ..that sux..destroying the coin was unnecessary.
SM1 calls me a troublemaker....
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Sunday August 19, 2007 9:17AM
A mentor awarded " YOU SUCK!!"
<< <i>A good ending to this one. >>
A good one, but not the optimal one. It reminds me of an old Infocom game I played on the Atari 800 in college, a text-based adventure where a good wizard was possessed by an evil spirit that threatened to destroy the world. The first time I went through the end game, the wizard was sleeping as if comatose on a slab and I took a magic dagger and plunged it into his heart repeatedly, killing him and the spirit evil power possessing him.
I "saved the world" but in the words of the game, my character dropped the bloody dagger after the deed was done and fell to his knees, crying, thinking that there just HAD to be a better way than to kill the old friend...
So the next time I went through it I figured out a little more and found a way to exorcise the spirit without killing the good wizard.
Anyway, that reminds of me of this situation: The numismatic "world" is saved of one bad AT coin, but it feels like it could have had a better ending than a horribly mutilated coin.
I hadn't thought of that game for many years until now...
<< <i>but it feels like it could have had a better ending than a horribly mutilated coin. >>
I find poetry in the mutilation.
Russ, NCNE
Then the only thing left to do is...send it over. I'll have it melted into a silver 9MM slug and then fire it
SM1 calls me a troublemaker....
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Sunday August 19, 2007 9:17AM
A mentor awarded " YOU SUCK!!"
<< <i>Personally having owned that coin before it would not have dipped clean. Like all the others I have bought back
it will never see the light of day in my life time. I really am happy to get it back. >>
Eh. Don't let the truth get in the way of my reminiscing of the old days of computing with 64K of RAM!
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I guess in my eyes its just part of the coins pedigree. Who cares if it was at 50 years earlier. They arent making any more the last time I checked.
That's about right. Everyone move along now. All is good.
<< <i> All is good. >>
Yeah, all is good.
A $100 coin that was toned in the holder by a small time, relatively amateur coin doctor was sold for 2k!
Yup, move along, nothing to see here.
The good guys win again, no harm no foul.
Forget it ever happened, happened, happened.......
its just white collar crime
-------------Thats probably what he would have to do--------------BigE
If I'm the higher bidder, I feel cheated. The auction was a hoax.
The high bidder is justified to give the seller a neg and report the under bidder to ebay to have them both removed.
How difficult would it of been to end it early or even edit the description?
Yet another reason to move away from ebay and towards auctions by Legend.
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
IF YOU ARE GOING TO DAMAGE A COIN TO THAT EXTENT, SEND IT TO ME....I HAVE KEPT MY D@MN MOUTH SHUT DURING THIS CRAP BUT DESTROYING A COIN IS GOING TO FAR!!!!!!
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
This coin was, theoretically and LEGALLY, sold on Ebay.
The seller did not go through with the sale, instead, apparently, selling it back to the small time doctor who created the "value added."
All I was attempting to do was indicate, once again, that all the AT/NT crap that goes on here has very little effect on the market (come on, 2 thousand dollars for that!?!?!?) and not let this thread die too quickly, as I don't believe that what manofcoins has done is anywhere near as bad as what I imagine (and have been repeatedly told) the "real" coin doctors have.
z
ps. I'm "really" happy that manofcoins is really "happy to get it back."
pps. and I "really" commend mike for "not taking the $2225 and running..."
"for sure!"
<< <i>Why is everyone is support of the ending of this auction? If I'm the higher bidder, I feel cheated. The auction was a hoax. The high bidder is justified to give the seller a neg and report the under bidder to ebay to have them both removed. How difficult would it of been to end it early or even edit the description? Yet another reason to move away from ebay and towards auctions by Legend. >>
The auction wasn't ended early. However, as I understand it, the winning bidder was informed that the coin had been doctored and he chose to back out. Without his bid, MOC wins it for one bid increment above 3rd place which is a few hundred bucks. So there was no farce and your prejudice against ebay auctions was unfounded. However, buying coins from Legend isn't a bad idea if you can afford them. She'll probably even give you her honest opinion of whether the coin you're looking at is AT or NT. --Jerry
<< <i>The auction wasn't ended early. However, as I understand it, the winning bidder was informed that the coin had been doctored and he chose to back out... >>
Read manofcoins posts a little more carefully. The buyer wanted the coin anyway!
As this info is coming from manofcoins, it's not clear that this was in fact the case, but if it was it appears that the seller breached his legal duty to go through with the sale.
Are the big guys afraid to touch this one? I know it's not "Battle Creek" but it is a fairly high priced toned coin that would have sold for "Barney money" and was toned by a minor league doctor inside the holder.
Awww, never mind, move along, nothing to see here............
“It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.” Mark Twain
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<< <i>Too bad I can't use the colorful language that comes to mind after reading this thread else I would be banned. I've walked away from the computer screen twice now trying to calm down. The fried egg and bacon sandwich was good, but I am still astounded that anyone would intentionally deface this coin, post a photo of it and then by implication self-congratulate themselves. It leaves me wondering what about being a collector don't you get. Well bully for you two but don't expect attaboys from me. >>
I am in total agreement with this!
So what if the coin would not have dipped out at a 65. Perhaps a 64 or even a 63 but now, its totally lost to the collecting community and for what? So the doctor that ATed it can feel "really happy" about it? Gimme a break!
I think both parties in this action should not have posted this and pounded their chests because what was done was self serving and unwarranted and really no better than the original ATing!
Edited to add: Now do the right thing and send the label in to PCGS to get it removed from the pop reports! Sheesh!
The name is LEE!
Just my two cents.
K S
But in her words: It is a pretty coin, why is everyone so worried about what it is held in if the owner likes it? Now nobody wants that poor coin.
I have had people ask me why some of my coins look like crap or have been cleaned,
MY ANSWER IS : BUY THE D@MN COIN NOT THE PLASTIC!!!!!!
I buy coins for their eye appeal, rarity or VAM. I don't have a lot of money to spend on coins and I am very proud of the collection that I have...
Unless you are buying to hold the best set, registry set or rarity set....who gives a crap if the coin is AT, NT, whizzed or cleaned....as long as it is not counterfiet or date/mm altered....if you can only afford the cheapest, that leaves the big dogs to fight over points.
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
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Perhaps we've learned a lesson here. It appears the vast majority of board members, including myself, would have preferred to see the coin dipped.
--Jerry