Grade the 1822 quarter; vote in the poll!

fivecents · January 11, 2005 1:35PM

Vf35

Baley · January 11, 2005 2:36PM

Wow, quite a spread among the grades, keep them coming..

Varlis · January 11, 2005 2:56PM

I voted VF-25--unless there's something going on in the field behind the cap, but it looks to me like the picture. Nice toning, and great overall look.

Is this the one you BIN'ed off eBay?

nugget369 · January 11, 2005 3:09PM

EF40 although the reverse is sharper.

Cladiator · January 11, 2005 3:21PM

Nice coin Baley...you did it again! I'd say F15 on a bad day and VF20 on a good day. I'm jealous

TommyType · January 11, 2005 3:41PM

I went VF-25 off the top of my head....but after consulting my ANA guide, I'd probably go a bit higher.....30 or 35.

dorkkarl · January 11, 2005 9:08PM

vf-20

K S

kieferscoins · January 11, 2005 10:14PM

VF-20.

Cameron Kiefer

1907Quarter · January 11, 2005 10:40PM

vf30!

fivecents · January 11, 2005 11:56PM

OK Baley....what do you grade the coin?

OKbustchaser · January 12, 2005 12:45AM

Nice VF 20-25.

mgoodm3 · January 12, 2005 1:03AM

F15 - VF20

Baley · January 12, 2005 2:20AM

Thanks for your responses.

TommyType mentioned the ANA grading guide, I'm working off a very old copy but I'll quote:

Fine 12: Obverse: Nearly half the details show in hair, drapery, and cap. All letters, and parts of ear and clasp are visible. Eyelid is flattened. Parts of star centers are worn flat. LIBERTY is complete. Reverse: half the feathers are visible in the wings. Letters in motto weak but clear. head is nearly smooth; eye and some feathers show.

Very Fine 20: Obverse: Over half the details still show in hair. Drapery and lower curls worn but bold. Ear, clasp, and curls are all plainly visible. Reverse: Head and leg are worn, but some feathers are visible. Most details in wings are clear unless weakly struck. Motto is complete. Half of the horizontal shield lines are separated.

Very Fine 30: Obverse: Hair above eye and around ear is worn almost smooth. Balance of hair is well detailed. Ear and shoulder clasp show clearly. Drapery and eye are well defined. Star centers are weak. Reverse: Feathers are worn but most details are visible. Some details in neck, shield, and talons are well worn. Eyelid is visible. shield lines are flat but separated.

I do not think the coin is lower than fine or higher than very fine, so we'll leave those for another thread..

This coin, I like as a VF 25, as does the board bell curve. It's detail and overall appearance are higher, in my opinion, than just a regular ole VF coin, and the reverse probably merits 30. There are a few scattered marks not uncommensurate with a mid grade coin, including a little patch of roughness behind the head, but these are more than compensated by the outstanding color and eye appeal of this piece.

Yes, this is the coin I BIN'd from JJTeaparty this past week; it was up for about 2 hours when I saw it. By the way, they had it advertised as a VF30 but priced as a 20? Bit of a tougher date in grades above VG, this is the first 1822 I've had, will probably be quite a while until I can get the only other variety of this coin, the 25/50 reverse, unless I can cherry one at some point...

coinkat · January 12, 2005 10:48AM

30 is optimistic. I like it as a 20, but originality may help bring it to a 25

JoesMaName · January 12, 2005 10:57AM

Here's a picture of a PCGS graded VG10 yours looks a bit better so I'm guessing F15-VF20 tops

K6AZ · January 12, 2005 11:00AM

I'm voting VF25. That's a really nice looking coin.

KlectorKid · January 12, 2005 11:04AM

F15

ziggy29 · January 12, 2005 11:18AM

I voted VF-20, with a bias slightly higher toward 25.

stman · January 12, 2005 3:06PM

Very nice "look" to this piece. I should get me one of these. I don't know why but I just know I should.
Looks like it's got some Nice "original" on it.

K6AZ · January 12, 2005 3:08PM

By the way, who's the clown that voted VG10?

dorkkarl · January 12, 2005 9:05PM

i guessed vf-20, but would not argue w/ vf-25. it's academic, since the quality & "look" of the coin are more important then the "grade".

K S

MFH · January 12, 2005 10:02PM

I voted VF 20.

You mentioned that it was listed as a VF 30, but priced out as a VF 20...

I also wouldn't argue the fact that it could go to a VF 25.

Barndog · September 21, 2006 10:56PM

This is a thought-provoking GTG thread on bust material, I liked it.

RichieURich · September 22, 2006 1:55AM

I voted VF-30 so I'm with Teaparty on this one. I believed the coin met the ANA Grading Guide's standards for VF-30. Baley, nice coin with a real original look to it.

Only issue is that it will be tough to match this one when you get the 1822 25/50 variety. And it's getting more difficult, as the number of Bust Quarter collectors is growing.

123cents · September 22, 2006 1:58AM

VF-20.

richardshipp · September 22, 2006 2:02AM

I voted 30; but think I was influenced by the look; which I like.

numisma · September 22, 2006 2:02AM

Hey Baley, is your 1823 quarter the same grade?

mozin · September 22, 2006 3:23AM

I tossed the grade between F15 and VF20, voted F15.

Baley · September 22, 2006 4:56AM

I just got to say.. an 108-vote bell curve is a beautiful thing... wonderful spread and symmetry... thank you to everone who voted.

Baley · April 17, 2010 6:54AM

more data, better statistics. ttt

mcarney1173 · April 17, 2010 7:11AM

12/20

both sides are different

LoveMyLiberty · April 17, 2010 7:12AM

Excellent way to have a guess the grade!

Baley · May 24, 2015 3:49AM

Thanks, it takes a couple of minutes to add a poll, but once you get a large enough number of votes, the results can be really illustrative of the subjectivity in grading

BillJones · May 24, 2015 3:58AM

I voted Fine 15. It has nice eye appeal for a well circulated coin, and the reverse is better than Fine, but the obverse is the more important side. I would hope that the level of detail for a VF-20 has not slipped to the amount detail that is on the obverse of that piece.

LanLord · May 24, 2015 4:02AM

I don't know how, but this is the first time I've seen this poll.

Cool quarter, but then what else could I say, it's right in my series sweet spot.

luckybucks · May 24, 2015 4:28AM

Looks better than an average VF, so I votes VF30.

Nice coin.

Moldnut · May 24, 2015 5:03AM

No way this coin is a VF30, 20 is about right.

coinhack · May 24, 2015 5:10AM

I voted VF20. I could see it as a 25. Especially the reverse.

BillJones · May 24, 2015 6:13AM

<< <i>By the way, who's the clown that voted VG10?

>>

If EAC grading applied to silver, he would not be very off if at all. Some of those EAC guys are brutal.

MsMorrisine · May 24, 2015 6:18AM

what did it grade?

the GTGGS currently has it at a 20, but I put in at 25

golden · May 24, 2015 6:38AM

I will go with 20.

Baley · March 25, 2017 3:51PM

The poll results disappeared with "the change", but the results were a beautiful bell curve with an average of about 22 and a very symmetrical spread from 10 to 35. It illustrated very well the range of opinions possible with such a coin.

hchcoin · March 25, 2017 4:30PM

25 in my book as well. Nice.

thisnamztaken · March 25, 2017 4:43PM

I don't see any poll but maybe that's because I'm using my Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 to look at it right now. (OR because this thread started several years ago?) I would agree with 25.
Nice looking coin, BTW!

kaz · March 25, 2017 8:08PM

I'll say 25, with a great look to it.

ricko · March 26, 2017 7:43AM

The poll is no longer visible... I would say 25 though.... Cheers, RickO

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