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Hey gang - after long last another 1986 Fleer basketball set break

Couple of these went down last summer and sold out in about 4 hours


1986 Fleer Basketball set break
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  • slum22slum22 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭✭
    I know about the breaks you are talking about. I couldn't find it on your link though. Where is it on the site? Has it already happened?
    Steve


  • << <i>I know about the breaks you are talking about. I couldn't find it on your link though. Where is it on the site? Has it already happened? >>




    It's right on the front page of the link provided... also if you look to the left under "Categories" there is a listing for 1986 Fleer Basketball Set Break.

    http://www.opcbaseball.com/1986-fleer-basketball-psa-set-break/
  • slum22slum22 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks cardsfan73, I most certainly see it now. When I made my first post, I had hit the link Bounce gave and I was taken to the mobile page of OPC.com. Now that I am on my laptop, the link works for me now and yes even I could not miss the 86 Fleer set break ad on the page image

    I will be interested to see the price of each slot. This is a cool way to break a set. This is probably one of the best sets to break this way as there is such a high percentage of HOF RC's in the set.
    Steve
  • halosfanhalosfan Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭✭
    This will be fun
    Looking for a Glen Rice Inkredible and Alex Rodriguez cards
  • Thanks for posting....looks like a lot of fun, and a lot more fun than tha tfor a few guys.
    I'm a big Nolan Ryan fan OK???!!!
  • Very cool!
    Matt
    I collect: 80’s Rookies and 86 Fleer Basketball
  • bouncebounce Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭
    if you're interested, looks like this is on! if it's like the last ones over the summer, it will sell out pretty quick.
  • jfkheatjfkheat Posts: 2,721 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like it may be sold out already
    James
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    Goes live tomorrow at 10AM CST on the OPC website.
  • How much for each slot. I couldn't find it on the web page.
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    $38 each
  • DavisDavis Posts: 705 ✭✭
    Anyone thinking about jumping in on this...I've been running the numbers in my head at $38/slot. Assume $35 for card and $3 for shipping. That's $35 x 143 cards = $5,005. Because there are a handful of key cards in PSA 8, I ran the SMR for a PSA 9 set and adjusted for the key cards in an 8. Now I know that SMR is dated on this set on a bundle of cards, but I think this run down comes close.

    PSA 9 Set SMR 5764
    Plus SMR PSA 8 Stickets $277
    Less D Wilkins 8 Difference -$216
    Less Barkley 8 Difference -$102
    Less Jordan 8 Difference -$1,450
    Less Mullin 8 Difference -$93
    Less Checklist 8 Difference -$168
    Less Isiah 8 Diff -$70
    Less Worthy 8 Diff -$67
    Less Steve Johnson 8 Diff -$42
    Less Blackmon 8 Diff -$75
    Less Birdson 8 Diff -$23
    Total SMR $3,735

    Premium on Lottery Sale $1,270
    Premium on Lottery Sale 34%

    That said...I might still jump in for 1 slot because it sounds fun...haha.
  • vintagefunvintagefun Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭
    Bought 2 slots for poops and grins. Hopefully I get a grin and not 2 poops.

    52-90 All Sports, Mostly Topps, Mostly HOF, and some assorted wax.
  • Purchased 2. I predict more poop than grins for me.
  • shu4040shu4040 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭
    Def a sucker bet. Especially with no 9 jordan. But I bought one image
  • DavisDavis Posts: 705 ✭✭


    << <i>Def a sucker bet. Especially with no 9 jordan. But I bought one image >>


    Me too. Went for 1. Haha. I think there's about 13 cards out of the 143 that will exceed the $38 cost. I hope it sells out fast for some Friday entertainment.
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    I've never owned a 86 Fleer card so I bought a slot. This will be fun. Maybe I'll run a lottery for a set of 89 topps hockey at $1/slot, lol.
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    That is one off looking PSA 9 Drexler??
  • bouncebounce Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭


    << <i>PSA 9 Set SMR 5764
    Plus SMR PSA 8 Stickets $277
    Less D Wilkins 8 Difference -$216
    Less Jordan 8 Difference -$1,450
    Total SMR $3,735

    Premium on Lottery Sale $1,270
    Premium on Lottery Sale 34%
    >>


    I'm working a set of PSA 9s myself, and can tell you SMR is behind on pricing for sure. A few examples:
    1. PSA 8 stickers - Jabbar/Wilkins are not $42/$25. They're $60/$45 if you want any chance of winning. And Jordan is not $130 unless it's just inside OC qualifier, it's more like $150.

    2. PSA 8 commons at $4 - I count exactly 3 auctions that are below that (when considering shipping costs), and exactly 8 just on bids. All I can say is good luck buying them for that! In fact, I'll go one step further - if you will take $4 per card for PSA 8 commons from this set, PLEASE PM ME RIGHT NOW! I WILL BUY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM YOU HAVE, NO NEGOTIATION REQUIRED! Or hit me up after the break as well - I'll buy them. image
    How's that? Heck, I might even do it at $6/card. $7-8 per card is more realistic.

    3. PSA 8 Jordan at $1,050 - For a nice PSA 8, you'll pay closer to $1,200, I've seen some as high as $1,400. I know there were some auctions below this, so maybe it's a decent "average" but my sense is that PSA 8s are picking up steam right along with the PSA 9s. They're getting harder to find and are getting more expensive, slowly but surely.

    4. You aren't counting the 3% he probably pays to Paypal. That's $150.

    Just by that math -
    $3,735
    1. +$45-60
    2. +$200-300
    3. +$100-150
    TOTAL - $4,080-$4,245, premium is closer to 15-20% after fees assuming you can find or build the whole set (doesn't sound that hard but I can tell you from experience it is harder than you think). That will probably take a year if you want to control the costs and have the $4k to do it - that's the other consideration.

    Plus, I'm not aware of another setbreak since the two last summer? If these things are really out there in sets why haven't we seen another one since then?

    I'm interested to see how this goes, hopefully somewhere here hits the MJs! That would be SWEET!
  • parkerjparkerj Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭
    I'm in for a slot, cant resist a good gamble. And i don't even have 1 card from the set yet!
  • unishipuniship Posts: 490 ✭✭
    Bought 3 slots - this is my first "set break" and also my post here in years btw - FYI. image
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    I just looked at the "paid slot list" and saw that numbers have been assigned to each. Number 57 (Jordan) already has a taken slot. Am I safe in assuming that the set will be randomly assigned a number and it won't follow the number of the card?
    The Clockwork Angel Collection...brought to you by Bank of America, Wells Fargo, and Chase
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  • vintagefunvintagefun Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭
    Will be randomized twice thru random.org for final result I believe.
    52-90 All Sports, Mostly Topps, Mostly HOF, and some assorted wax.


  • << <i>I just looked at the "paid slot list" and saw that numbers have been assigned to each. Number 57 (Jordan) already has a taken slot. Am I safe in assuming that the set will be randomly assigned a number and it won't follow the number of the card? >>




    Just a guess, but I feel like some people play lucky numbers when it comes to breaks even with a randomizer.
  • schapkoschapko Posts: 341 ✭✭
    Just took two slots. I figured why the H@ll not. I gamble and play powerball, so this has better odds and a nice jackpot.
    Buying 75 Topps Reg. Size PSA 9
    1975 Topps Registry Set "Scott's 75 Topps Set"


  • << <i>I just looked at the "paid slot list" and saw that numbers have been assigned to each. Number 57 (Jordan) already has a taken slot. Am I safe in assuming that the set will be randomly assigned a number and it won't follow the number of the card? >>



    You can request the numbers of your slot (s). As long as it isn't taken he is giving that number. Those that don't make a request will receive random ones.

    After slots are set then he is using random.org to decide which slot gets which card.
    I'm a big Nolan Ryan fan OK???!!!
  • MeferMefer Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭
    I bought two slots. I figure you can spend $78 (if not more) on a box of modern and pull eight dollars worth of inserts. Odds seem much better here of pulling a decent card (even if you don't hit a Jordan).

    Matt
  • vintagefunvintagefun Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭
    Just got my 3rd and final slot. Figure it's a fraction of the cost of a pack at similar cost per card, but comes graded 8 or 9 and I actually have a chance (albeit slim) to get the Jordan, which is more than I can say for most packs.

    All the best to the other participants...if the grins don't come my way, I hope they at least land here on the board.
    52-90 All Sports, Mostly Topps, Mostly HOF, and some assorted wax.
  • DavisDavis Posts: 705 ✭✭


    << <i>Just got my 3rd and final slot. Figure it's a fraction of the cost of a pack at similar cost per card, but comes graded 8 or 9 and I actually have a chance (albeit slim) to get the Jordan, which is more than I can say for most packs.

    All the best to the other participants...if the grins don't come my way, I hope they at least land here on the board. >>


    Interesting way of looking at it...if you pay $700 for a pack with 12 cards + 1 sticker, that breaks down to $58/card. I might add one more slot as it gets close to filling up. If I don't hit the MJ, I hope I hit one of the 24 remaining cards I need to complete my PSA 8 set.

    Best of luck to everyone!
  • lucasjlucasj Posts: 152 ✭✭✭
    First post in a long time (been living in Indonesia for the last year) but bought a couple spots as well. Good luck y'all!

    Luke
    1987 Topps FB - Signed
    1989 Hoops BB - Signed
    Seattle Seahawks & Mariners Key Cards
    Selectively Random Cards That Make Me Happy
  • I just hope someone on this board hits the MJ.
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    still quite a few of these left...the first sold out in about four hours, hoping this one does.
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    still quite a few of these left...the first sold out in about four hours, hoping this one does.
  • bouncebounce Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Just got my 3rd and final slot. Figure it's a fraction of the cost of a pack at similar cost per card, but comes graded 8 or 9 and I actually have a chance (albeit slim) to get the Jordan, which is more than I can say for most packs.

    All the best to the other participants...if the grins don't come my way, I hope they at least land here on the board. >>



    this is an interesting idea actually. and depending on where the pack came from, you can figure just about a 0% chance at the MJ. this year had a sequence to it, so you gotta figure even of the graded/slabbed packs there's not much chance of hitting an MJ RC.

    I really hope someone from the board hits it.
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    still quite a few of these left...I may get another image
  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The degeneracy on display in this thread is staggering.




    Just purchased two slots. image
  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    just bought one (i think lol)
    Buying US Presidential autographs
  • shu4040shu4040 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭
    To be honest it's a fairly ugly centered set. Some generous centering grading.

    Just bought my 2nd slot.
  • jjwormjjworm Posts: 196 ✭✭
    I'm in for two slots.

    Just to get me in the mood, I noted my two slot positions and then watched the 5 minute video on the webpage that explains how it all works. Sure enough, the video shows a fictitious run on the random generator two times. I had my fingers crossed and paused the video at my positions to see what I would have received. The drawing gods were not with me and I ended up with two commons in PSA 8 worth $10 and $6 (according to Ebay completed sales). Here's hoping for better returns when the true drawing comes!

    Collecting:

    - Post War baseball HOF RC's
    - 1980's unopened baseball
    - All Mutoscope and American Beauties

  • KarbKarb Posts: 557 ✭✭✭
    This should be fun for a cheap gamble.
    Robert

    Hoarding silver and collecting history
  • I just bought a spot. Whatever I get will be my only basketball card!
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I just bought a spot. Whatever I get will be my only basketball card! >>



    same!
  • rtimmerrtimmer Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm in for two slots. The math on it looks decent but I'm in it to hit the big one!!
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  • vintagefunvintagefun Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭
    Looks like 65 slots left...today's been slow.
    52-90 All Sports, Mostly Topps, Mostly HOF, and some assorted wax.
  • jfkheatjfkheat Posts: 2,721 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just bought two slots. It seems that most slots have been sold to members here. Good luck to everyone.
    James
  • markmacmarkmac Posts: 412 ✭✭✭
    I just bought a slot as well.
  • bouncebounce Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭
    This set makes the break look like a pretty good deal

    1986 Fleer PSA set - 8.5 avg
  • slum22slum22 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭✭
    I think the break looks like fun and is fairly valued. The set in your link has a very high asking price for what looks to be a set with stars that have underwhelming centering for the major cards (Jordan, Barkley, Olajuwon, etc.).
    Steve
  • This thing is taking a lot longer to fill than I thought it would.
  • DavisDavis Posts: 705 ✭✭


    << <i>This thing is taking a lot longer to fill than I thought it would. >>


    Me too. Hopefully it fills up today as I'm looking forward to seeing how it shakes out. I think people are a little shy paying $38. Blowout did one about a year ago with a very similar set (not as many 9s on the commons) and sold their slots for $28.50.
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