1961 Fleer Wilt Chamberlain PSA 9 Rookie....Wilt Graded N6 Min Size

Dpeck100 · April 12, 2011 11:07AM

WIlt PSA 9 Rookie

This bad boy is about to end. Any guesses on where this thing ends?

I would like to see $10,000+

otwcards · April 12, 2011 11:12AM

My guess is it probably will be hard pressed to top $8K. A far cry from the $11K this exact card allegedly sold for last October.

Dpeck100 · April 12, 2011 11:13AM

The seller Goomba Joe is the fiercest buyer I have ever seen.

That guy has deep pockets and if he wants the card he is winning.

Probstein123 · April 12, 2011 11:17AM

$8200-8500 is my guesstimate.

GoDodgersFan · April 12, 2011 11:18AM

Wow. Deep pockets for this card.

Dpeck100 · April 12, 2011 11:19AM

This is a really sweet card.

Only an hour to go. The last 30 seconds should be fun to watch!!

stevek · April 12, 2011 12:02PM

$9,100

...just to have some action in the thread.

Probstein123 · April 12, 2011 12:12PM

I was just outbid, its at $6500 now...

miconelegacy · April 12, 2011 12:16PM

That is an amazing card! Hope you win it, whomever is bidding on it...

Probstein123 · April 12, 2011 12:21PM

I stopped at $6400....2 dealers battled for it...finished at $7600

stevek · April 12, 2011 12:22PM

Good call from Scott.

otwcards · April 12, 2011 12:29PM

<< Good call from Scott. >>

I'm not as dumb as I look...

Sean1125 · April 12, 2011 12:44PM

<< 

<< Good call from Scott. >>

I'm not as dumb as I look...

>>

But...

Dpeck100 · April 12, 2011 12:44PM

SMR at $6,250

PSA has some catching up to do. These can't trade all the time like a modern card at this price so $7,600 is the current sale. I bet these surface in PSA 9 very rarely with a population of 26.

Awesome card!!!

thunderdan · April 12, 2011 1:28PM

I believe it was a consignment. I offered to buy early, but he said the consignor wanted $9.5K. Too much for that card. Still, I had a bid on the card, but wasn't willing to chase it.

Stone193 · April 12, 2011 1:29PM

That's a pretty darn nice card.

But, shoot - I can buy a lot of board games for that!

Dpeck100 · April 12, 2011 1:35PM

Thunderdan,

This EBAY ID under Goomba Joe is the most agressive buyer I have ever witnessed.

Is this a major dealer out of Boston?

He has bought some really awesome cards in the past 9 months. The only card I did not lose was a 1982 Wrestling All Stars PSA 9 Ricky Steamboat for $135. On major cards you can not beat this buyer as the pockets are so deep!

thunderdan · April 12, 2011 1:37PM

<< This EBAY ID under Goomba Joe is the most agressive buyer I have ever witnessed. >>

You have never witnessed Don Spence. It's not even a comparison.

Dpeck100 · April 12, 2011 1:41PM

I am sure you are so right. I know his name from the Registry and know he owns a huge big money card collection.

On more modern cards like Jordan inserts and other current issues this buyer gobbles them up. He ventured for a time into the Wrestling All Stars market but has not been spotted for some time.

Has loaded up on cards if you look the transactions.

otwcards · April 12, 2011 2:05PM

<< 

<< 

<< Good call from Scott. >>

I'm not as dumb as I look...

>>

But... >>

But what? C'mon and say it. I'm sure your pearls of wisdom will be worth the wait . . .

bobbyw8469 · April 12, 2011 2:08PM

Consignor took a bath on the card. He paid $11,100 in October of last year. Six month later it brings him back $7,600. Losing $3,500 must be small potatoes for some people. I wonder what changed in the 6 month time period?

diamondman · April 12, 2011 2:28PM

<< Consignor took a bath on the card. He paid $11,100 in October of last year. Six month later it brings him back $7,600. Losing $3,500 must be small potatoes for some people. I wonder what changed in the 6 month time period? >>

1. the ironed out crease came back.
2. card was replaced with a trimmed Wilt.
3. the owner had a bad day at the boat /casino and needed some cash.
4. Wilt just tested positive for HGH and the story hasn't broken yet!
5. the owner just bought a PSA 10 for 9,000.
6. he found out how much cardboard is by the pound.
7. heard the post office was raising their rates.
8. the holder had a chip in it and didn't want to pay the reholder fee.
9. 12-21-12 is one day closer now.
10. just needed some gas money.

hammered · April 12, 2011 2:28PM

7600
worth every penny IMO

corvette1340 · April 12, 2011 3:23PM

I might not have won it, bit it would not have sold for $7600 had I seen the auction.

itzagoner · April 12, 2011 3:47PM

would you have bid up to 139% of VCP average?

Dpeck100 · August 27, 2014 12:04PM

Wilt

I just won this.

I am hoping to get this in an authentic holder.

This is such a cool card that I just wanted to own one and I would rather an altered one that is sharp.

goraiders · August 27, 2014 12:16PM

<< Wilt

I just won this.

I am hoping to get this in an authentic holder.

This is such a cool card that I just wanted to own one and I would rather an altered one that is sharp. >>

Sharp it is,very nice on the eyes!

wrestlingcardking · August 27, 2014 12:17PM

Hope you get this one slabbed! Congrats!

slum22 · August 27, 2014 12:31PM

Congratulations. That is a very nice looking card. One of my favorite cards of all time. Are you going to get it slabbed?

Dpeck100 · August 27, 2014 12:35PM

<< Congratulations. That is a very nice looking card. One of my favorite cards of all time. Are you going to get it slabbed? >>

I am going to try. Hopefully PSA will label it AUTH or AUTH Trimmed. I don't care either way. I just would love to be able to see it in a slab and hold the card.

RookieHOFers · August 27, 2014 12:49PM

Nice card David!

Dpeck100 · August 31, 2014 12:19PM

I am anxious to get this card. I think it is a cool piece of basketball history.

In reality I had not spent anytime researching what the card should have gone for and it was more of a judgement call in the last 30 minutes. A friend helped with some price advice and I took it and won.

Looking at some other examples tonight I think this is a perfect for me. I wanted to own a copy that I am excited to look at. I can deal with the chop job.

SGC 1.5

BVG 1

ldferg · August 31, 2014 12:27PM

Great eye appeal. Would be glad to have this example in my collection. Good luck getting this slabbed. They do holder altered cards.

vladguerrero · August 31, 2014 12:28PM

Fantastic looking card. If you can get it into any PSA holder I can't see how you could ever lose money on it... but I would keep it. Nice job.

arex · August 31, 2014 12:30PM

Is the trim on the bottom edge? Looks like it bows from edges to center.
Edited to add thats a sweet card DPeck!

Dpeck100 · August 31, 2014 12:38PM

<< Is the trim on the bottom edge? Looks like it bows from edges to center.
Edited to add thats a sweet card DPeck! >>

If I had to bet I would think both the top and the bottom have been trimmed.

It looks cool which is what I am worried about.

The PSA 10 of this card would go for stupid money and has to be one of the top investment cards to own in all trading cards.

Dpeck100 · September 2, 2014 10:26AM

I got my Wilt and I am very pleased with it!

Are the 1961 Fleer longer then a standard size trading card?

vladguerrero · September 2, 2014 10:44AM

http://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/Hierarchy.aspx?c=35

Stone193 · September 2, 2014 10:45AM

<< I got my Wilt and I am very pleased with it!

Are the 1961 Fleer longer then a standard size trading card? >>

They're standard size.

Very nice pickup!

Dpeck100 · September 2, 2014 10:49AM

<< http://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/Hierarchy.aspx?c=35 >>

Thank you Vlad.

Dpeck100 · September 2, 2014 10:49AM

<< 

<< I got my Wilt and I am very pleased with it!

Are the 1961 Fleer longer then a standard size trading card? >>

They're standard size.

Very nice pickup! >>

Thanks! I will put up some scans tonight. I think this is a great set and this card presents very well.

Dpeck100 · September 2, 2014 11:07AM

I matched the card up with a standard sized card and it measures just fine. Here are the scans.

shu4040 · September 2, 2014 11:12AM

bottom edge? how does that look 61 experts? would there be a jagged cut like that?

Dpeck100 · September 2, 2014 11:16AM

<< bottom edge? how does that look 61 experts? would there be a jagged cut like that? >>

I have to think something was done to the card because of the way it was listed but I was surprised to see it match up like it does.

The top edge as it moves to the right seems a little odd but no telling. This is the type of card that could be sitting in a card shop raw listed for a high price.

1954 · September 2, 2014 11:19AM

The 1961 Fleer basketball cards differ in size. I graded out a beautiful set and 12/66 came back minimum sized required. That Wilt looks fine to me.

ThoseBackPages · September 2, 2014 11:33AM

That is a great looking card!

I'm sure its been to the Slab factory a few times though

esquiresports · September 2, 2014 11:48AM

Beautiful card. There were some PSA A (trimmed) T206s in a recent auction and man was I tempted to enter the pre-war era. Your card has great color and registration. Great, great, pickup.

californiacards3 · September 4, 2014 2:56PM

Here is my Oscar Robertson somewhat OT, but bought in same auction. It is going into my raw collection and possibly a shot at PSA. I would also like some opinions

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Thoughts also appreciated on this

Barry

cardbender · September 4, 2014 4:32PM

I collect this set and bought my first complete set right out of packs with the gum powder
still on many of the card's surfaces back in 1988 at a card show. With that said, both the Wilt and Oscar above
have really nice colors, corners, and eye appeal, but both appear too short to make it into holders with a number grade.

Yes, '61 Fleers do vary in size but my experience tells me both are too short to be assigned a number grade.
Both are definitely authentic and nice cards to own however.

I remember seeing a PSA 8 or 9 Oscar a few years back that was way too short too, but
it somehow made it into a holder despite this, even though it was under their minimum size criteria.
So I guess you never know what may happen if you send your cards in for grading.

Dpeck100 · September 4, 2014 8:47PM

<< I collect this set and bought my first complete set right out of packs with the gum powder
still on many of the card's surfaces back in 1988 at a card show. With that said, both the Wilt and Oscar above
have really nice colors, corners, and eye appeal, but both appear too short to make it into holders with a number grade.

Yes, '61 Fleers do vary in size but my experience tells me both are too short to be assigned a number grade.
Both are definitely authentic and nice cards to own however.

I remember seeing a PSA 8 or 9 Oscar a few years back that was way too short too, but
it somehow made it into a holder despite this, even though it was under their minimum size criteria.
So I guess you never know what may happen if you send your cards in for grading. >>

Do they both looked trimmed?

The top edge of the Wilt is a lot more smooth then the rest of the card. I have a little loop with a light and it was easy to see the little fibers hanging off the card on all of the edges but the top.

I noticed that many of these cards have a little white strip on the back that extends past the blue area and perhaps someone cut it off.

The only edge that looks odd to me is the top and that would coincide with the white strip issue.

dberk12 · September 4, 2014 10:21PM

Great looking cards for a raw collection. If you decide to submit, please post the results. Hope they come back clean.

1961 Fleer Wilt Chamberlain PSA 9 Rookie....Wilt Graded N6 Min Size

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