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Thread Title: Any reports welcomed re: the half disme at Long Beach & Dunsmore's Painting of Washington "Inspecting the First Coins"
Created On Sunday April 11, 2004 4:03 AM
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northcoin
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The Long Beach show will feature the best known specimen of the 1792 half disme. Apparently the U.S. Mint in Philidalphia has on display a painting by John Ward Dunsmore showing George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and others viewing these first coins of which only 1500 to 2000 were made. Can anyone here link to an internet site that would show the subject painting?

Hey, it is Easter Morning. Anyone out there looking for a challenge in helping to locate a link to a copy of the above painting?

...... edited to add: Thanks to all who posted regarding the painting and the half disme - these the first coins authorized by congress and made available for circulation in the United States

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No painting yet but HERE is a write up on the event.

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Edited: Sunday April 11, 2004 at 5:16 AM by cosmicdebris

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They may have something here:

Opened on a limited basis. U. S. Mint Coin Sets, commemorative coins, numismatic collectables, books, games and U. S. Mint souvenirs are available. Please call the store directly at 215-408-0230 for sales information.

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Anyone having any luck in finding a link to the painting itself?

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Can anyone confirm that this painting is actually at the Philadelphia Mint by having seen it there?

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This is the closest I can find. It's a medal with the image from the painting on the obverse

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Thanks. That medal rendition is appreciated. I assume anyone else who has gone Googling trying to find a link to the painting has had the same lack of luck that I had. Perhaps a copy of the painting is in a numismatic book that someone here has access to and they can take a photo of it and post same?

As an added thought it would be neat if the U.S.Mint or whoever has the original painting could loan it to the Long Beach show so that it could be displayed along with the best known half disme that will be appearing there.

Edited: Sunday April 11, 2004 at 10:11 PM by northcoin

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From the John Reich Journal:

The last article was by Stephen A. Crain, a half dime specialist and frequent contributor. Stephen's article was "Inspection of the First Coins of the First United States Mint." Stephen stated that "As photography would not become a reality until 1840, no photographs of the original mint are available today. Certainly, no photographs are available of such a historically significant event as the presentation of the very first United States coins." He shares with the readers the story behind and a 10" X 7" print (from a 1916 calendar) that he acquired of the John Ward Dunsmore painting "Inspection of the First Coins of the First United States Mint." Stephen is an avid collector of half dimes, and of course, the first coins produced by the Mint were the 1792 half dismes (dimes).

So all you have to do is find the calendar or Stephen A. Crain.

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Andy, thanks for that lead. It appears from the John Reich Journal website that back issues of Volume 13, issue 1, July 2000 containing the article by Stephen Crain and the reproduction of the painting from the 1916 Calendar may no longer be available. Anyone here have a collection of the John Reich Journal that would include that article and reproduction? If so would welcome seeing a scan linked or posted here. Separately I'd be interested in securing a copy of the July 2000 journal if anyone has one for sale - please PM me if so.

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Mint souvenir store had nothing.

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Anyone still searching?

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Smoebody got to have something on this.

I'll bet if Andrian shows up he would know.

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Here's some more info I found

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CosmicDebris -

That should make it easy. Frank Stewart donated the painting, so he probably pictured it in his book “History of the First United States Mint”. Anyone out there have a copy?

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Amazon has 1 copy of the book listed for $268.23

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If anyone has a copy, it would be Rittenhouse.

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It's a common book and should NOT be expensive. I'll bet there are at least a dozen copies owned by Forum members.

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Here's a "picture of the picture." A picture of this painting is on page 20 of Frank H. Stewart's History of the First United States Mint, but it's a B&W photo. It's also on the original dust jacket of the Quarterman reprint of that book.



This picture is neat, but it is historically inaccurate. The 1792 half dimes were all minted during one day in July, I think it was the 17th. That same month the government purchased the land where the first U.S. mint was built. Therefore there was no mint building and the coins could not have been made there. The best guess was that they were produced in the workshop of John Harper under the supervision of Thomas Jefferson, who was the secretary of state. Although Alexander Hamilton was the secretary of the treasury, Jefferson was responsible for the mint.

Note that there is a sketch on the wall of the Ms. Liberty that appeared on the obverse of the half disme.

I believe that I saw this painting at the Philadelphia, in the early 1980s behind the display of "the 1792 coin press" (which the Gallery Mint folks say is a planchet cutter). There is or was a reproduction of it on an outside wall of the Philadelphia Mint that faces toward Independence Hall.


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Edited: Monday April 12, 2004 at 1:42 PM by BillJones

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I don't know what the artist was basing his rendition on. He was not born until 1856... therefore, I guess it is a fanciful "guess" of the actual scene rather than historically accurate.

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